Excellent piece. In one way or another, many of us were taught that the 11th Commandment is "Don't make them angry." In other words, don't draw attention to yourself or your Jewishness, because existing while Jewish is a justifiable provocation for violence.
Anti-Zionism seems to represent the logical conclusion of this attitude. It not only negates the value of Jewish tradition, it negates the value of Jewishness itself. It makes being Jewish just another intersectional category, and antisemitism just another form of bigotry. Nothing special, nothing to see here, nothing for "them" (those who hate us) to get angry at.
It is refreshing to see Jewish writers realizing that this attitude is not only worthy of contempt, it is suicidal.
As a former evangelical Christian (from the US), you definitely capture the essence of the anti zionist. Most US anti zionists are former evangelicals. They traded one fundamentalism for another. I see it my some of my own family members. It makes me depressed and discouraged, but thankfully there are a few “righteous” people left.
I had an epiphany recently that a couple years back I was sharing the photo of the houthies taking over their government and celebrating them thinking they were the good guys. I'm so mad at the proganada on the left. The thing that really pisses me off is the hypocrisy and double standards on the left. I blinded believed and reposted their garbage w no questions.
Kol haKavod. I have always found the Far Leftist Messianists very similar to the Sabbateans: they believe that by “doing something” (e.g., eating organic), they can impact world history and accelerate redemption. Also, they venture into the non-Jewish world, often antisemites, to redeem the soul of the non-Jews (in which they are persuaded to see “a sparkle of humanity”) by focusing on common aspirations such as “anti-racism”. Last but not least, think how divisive they are inside the Jewish institutions where they violently criminalise whomever disagrees….
Amelia you never miss! How right you are. It’s wild that we let every other marginalized group define their own oppression, yet I have sadly met Holocaust teachers who do not promote the IHRA definition because they “worry it silences criticism of Israel and they do not want to promote a specific definition of antisemitism” when 1. If you actually read IHRA it does not silence criticism of Israel and 2. If we can’t define our own oppression who should be allowed to? 3. If you feel “silenced” by the IHRA definition you might be an antisemite.
“I was supposed to be a Lawyer but now I talk shit in the internet.” Wow! A really powerful line. Thanks for the shit you talk in the internet. It’s certainly a lot more coherent, sensible and logical than all the clean crap spewed by our politicians and mainstream media.
They all need real jobs, the kind where you fall into bed from physical exhaustion ! Like working in a coal mine, that would clear their addled brains.
Interesting. Evangelistic Christianity is at the root of conservatism, at least in the US. It is also at the root of “Christian Zionism.” If it’s *also* at the root of anti Zionism, what does this tell us about Jews who say the right wing is the best choice for the Jews?
To be Jewish is to live by the Torah. To be Christian is to live by the New Testament. To be Muslim is to live by the Koran. It is to be alive in our faith of choice and our interpretation of what we strive to gain from that faith. The list is long for each, and do not always align. All three believe there will be an end and a new beginning for humankind, yet each sees differently what leads to the end, the shape of the new world, and how we end up facing mortality for the life we live.
As long as there can be an anti-Anything, against everything with which we don't believe, we humans are not worthy of the promises of a paradise on earth.
That is false. Jewish identity is not simply “living by the torah” comparable to faiths like Islam or Christianity. Being Jewish means belonging to an ethnoreligious group. Many Jews don’t even believe in god.
Totally false because you ascribe to the ethnoreligious group think on Jews, or only partially false because people I've known that identify as Jewish take the Torah very seriously as a guide for their life, others not so much.
Excellent piece. In one way or another, many of us were taught that the 11th Commandment is "Don't make them angry." In other words, don't draw attention to yourself or your Jewishness, because existing while Jewish is a justifiable provocation for violence.
Anti-Zionism seems to represent the logical conclusion of this attitude. It not only negates the value of Jewish tradition, it negates the value of Jewishness itself. It makes being Jewish just another intersectional category, and antisemitism just another form of bigotry. Nothing special, nothing to see here, nothing for "them" (those who hate us) to get angry at.
It is refreshing to see Jewish writers realizing that this attitude is not only worthy of contempt, it is suicidal.
As a former evangelical Christian (from the US), you definitely capture the essence of the anti zionist. Most US anti zionists are former evangelicals. They traded one fundamentalism for another. I see it my some of my own family members. It makes me depressed and discouraged, but thankfully there are a few “righteous” people left.
I had an epiphany recently that a couple years back I was sharing the photo of the houthies taking over their government and celebrating them thinking they were the good guys. I'm so mad at the proganada on the left. The thing that really pisses me off is the hypocrisy and double standards on the left. I blinded believed and reposted their garbage w no questions.
1984 George Orwell
War is peace and terrorists are liberators
Kol haKavod. I have always found the Far Leftist Messianists very similar to the Sabbateans: they believe that by “doing something” (e.g., eating organic), they can impact world history and accelerate redemption. Also, they venture into the non-Jewish world, often antisemites, to redeem the soul of the non-Jews (in which they are persuaded to see “a sparkle of humanity”) by focusing on common aspirations such as “anti-racism”. Last but not least, think how divisive they are inside the Jewish institutions where they violently criminalise whomever disagrees….
Amelia you never miss! How right you are. It’s wild that we let every other marginalized group define their own oppression, yet I have sadly met Holocaust teachers who do not promote the IHRA definition because they “worry it silences criticism of Israel and they do not want to promote a specific definition of antisemitism” when 1. If you actually read IHRA it does not silence criticism of Israel and 2. If we can’t define our own oppression who should be allowed to? 3. If you feel “silenced” by the IHRA definition you might be an antisemite.
“I was supposed to be a Lawyer but now I talk shit in the internet.” Wow! A really powerful line. Thanks for the shit you talk in the internet. It’s certainly a lot more coherent, sensible and logical than all the clean crap spewed by our politicians and mainstream media.
I hate bibi but he's right about Americans being useful idiots.
They all need real jobs, the kind where you fall into bed from physical exhaustion ! Like working in a coal mine, that would clear their addled brains.
Interesting. Evangelistic Christianity is at the root of conservatism, at least in the US. It is also at the root of “Christian Zionism.” If it’s *also* at the root of anti Zionism, what does this tell us about Jews who say the right wing is the best choice for the Jews?
If that's how you perceived my post, I'm sorry to see you missed the context of it's content.
Very informative and well written.
I learned something that I did not know. (I didn't really like what I learned, but it is what it is)
To be Jewish is to live by the Torah. To be Christian is to live by the New Testament. To be Muslim is to live by the Koran. It is to be alive in our faith of choice and our interpretation of what we strive to gain from that faith. The list is long for each, and do not always align. All three believe there will be an end and a new beginning for humankind, yet each sees differently what leads to the end, the shape of the new world, and how we end up facing mortality for the life we live.
As long as there can be an anti-Anything, against everything with which we don't believe, we humans are not worthy of the promises of a paradise on earth.
That is false. Jewish identity is not simply “living by the torah” comparable to faiths like Islam or Christianity. Being Jewish means belonging to an ethnoreligious group. Many Jews don’t even believe in god.
Yup
If u don't believe that, ask Hitler
Totally false because you ascribe to the ethnoreligious group think on Jews, or only partially false because people I've known that identify as Jewish take the Torah very seriously as a guide for their life, others not so much.
If you’re not Jewish, you have no business telling Jews what it takes to be a Jew.